Ford Forums

Go Back   Ford Forums > Ford Trucks, Ford SUVs & Ford Vans > Ford Econoline

Ford Econoline There's more to the Econoline's staying power than Ford simply sticking with a product that has been the No. 1-selling full-size van since 1980. The Econoline has received only minor changes over the years. The result is a cargo van that looks different, but is still very much the same. For many E-Series customers, that is the best news of all.

» Advertisement
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 08-16-2009, 01:53 PM   #1 (permalink)
Junior Member
 

Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 9
theard has a spectacular aura abouttheard has a spectacular aura about
Points: 139, Level: 2 Points: 139, Level: 2 Points: 139, Level: 2
Level up: 78% Level up: 78% Level up: 78%
Activity: 99% Activity: 99% Activity: 99%
Default E-350 Rear air conditioning

I was curious to know if anyone has any issues with the rear a/c on the 15 passenger e-350. Mine only blows hot air out near the floor, no matter how I set the controls. No air comes out the ceiling vents. I think there is an actuator that isn't working properly, so the air is being directed through the rear heater. I went ahead and too the interior trim off and felt the a/c lines coming to the rear condensor, and that seemed normal. I don't know where to go at this point other than taking the whole thing apart. I don't have access to a factory shop manual, so I have no reference for any parts or procedures involving the rear a/c. Any help would be appreciated!
Thanks, Phil
theard is offline   Reply With Quote


Old 08-16-2009, 02:22 PM   #2 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
taz4x4150's Avatar
 

Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Indiana
Posts: 639
taz4x4150 has much to be proud oftaz4x4150 has much to be proud oftaz4x4150 has much to be proud oftaz4x4150 has much to be proud oftaz4x4150 has much to be proud oftaz4x4150 has much to be proud oftaz4x4150 has much to be proud oftaz4x4150 has much to be proud oftaz4x4150 has much to be proud of
Points: 4,160, Level: 27 Points: 4,160, Level: 27 Points: 4,160, Level: 27
Level up: 20% Level up: 20% Level up: 20%
Activity: 99% Activity: 99% Activity: 99%
Default

Do you have 4 switches on dash for climate controls? one is rear a/c? Could be a vacuum leak on this switch. There is alot of good info posted on this site for Windstar A/C having the same issues. Scroll down on this page, find "Forum Jump" go to Windstar
GOOD LUCK
__________________
97 F150 4x4
98 Windstar
01 Taurus SE

"Not a cure, just a suggestion!"
taz4x4150 is offline   Reply With Quote


1 out of 1 members found this post helpful.
Old 08-16-2009, 03:05 PM   #3 (permalink)
Junior Member
 

Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 9
theard has a spectacular aura abouttheard has a spectacular aura about
Points: 139, Level: 2 Points: 139, Level: 2 Points: 139, Level: 2
Level up: 78% Level up: 78% Level up: 78%
Activity: 99% Activity: 99% Activity: 99%
Default

I'll read the Windstar rear a/c info, and see if it appears to be the same setup. I have 4 controls on the dash, one for the rear, front, temperature, and a main control (IE. max a/c, defrost, etc.) I also have a rear control switch located in the rear. Thanks for you help.
theard is offline   Reply With Quote


Old 08-16-2009, 03:18 PM   #4 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
BroncoJoe19's Avatar
 

Join Date: May 2008
Location: New Jersey
Posts: 6,288
BroncoJoe19 has a reputation beyond reputeBroncoJoe19 has a reputation beyond reputeBroncoJoe19 has a reputation beyond reputeBroncoJoe19 has a reputation beyond reputeBroncoJoe19 has a reputation beyond reputeBroncoJoe19 has a reputation beyond reputeBroncoJoe19 has a reputation beyond reputeBroncoJoe19 has a reputation beyond reputeBroncoJoe19 has a reputation beyond reputeBroncoJoe19 has a reputation beyond reputeBroncoJoe19 has a reputation beyond repute
Points: 27,407, Level: 72 Points: 27,407, Level: 72 Points: 27,407, Level: 72
Level up: 48% Level up: 48% Level up: 48%
Activity: 99% Activity: 99% Activity: 99%
Default

What year is your truck?
Earlier years used a vacuum actuator, I think that later years may have used an electric actuator that moved a blend door.

Here are some of the threads that taz spoke of.

WIndstar rear heat/AC issues
http://www.ford-forums.com/ford-wind...html#post55494
__________________
BroncoJoe19
2006 Alt Fuel Jeep (electric)
'98 windstar 3.8L
'99 Crown Vic 4.6L
'90 Full Size Bronco 5.0L
I'm not a professional mechanic, take my suggestions with a grain of salt, or a cup of coffee
At the bottom of each post there is a little icon
Clicking it gives feedback to the moderators, and poster regarding which posts are most helpful.
BroncoJoe19 is offline   Reply With Quote


Old 08-16-2009, 04:03 PM   #5 (permalink)
Junior Member
 

Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 9
theard has a spectacular aura abouttheard has a spectacular aura about
Points: 139, Level: 2 Points: 139, Level: 2 Points: 139, Level: 2
Level up: 78% Level up: 78% Level up: 78%
Activity: 99% Activity: 99% Activity: 99%
Default

Oh yeah, it would help to mention the year haha! Its a 2000 E-350 XL Super Duty, with the 5.4 liter V8. I wish I had some pictures of the rear unit. I should have taken some when I had the rear trim removed. Another thing I remember seeing was several relays, and wiring harnesses. I don't remember seeing any actuators that moved anything. However, I didn't take it apart any further to investigate it at that point. I was looking for any kind of lever that moved any kind of blend door, but couldn't locate one. I do remember there being what appeared to be a vacuum line running to a point about a foot from the blower motor itself. I'll probably have to pull the rear trim and take a good look again, I hesitate because the trim mounting and connections don't strike me as at all very durable. I'll also take some pictures when I pull the trim again, so I have some better reference.
theard is offline   Reply With Quote


Old 08-16-2009, 09:42 PM   #6 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
taz4x4150's Avatar
 

Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Indiana
Posts: 639
taz4x4150 has much to be proud oftaz4x4150 has much to be proud oftaz4x4150 has much to be proud oftaz4x4150 has much to be proud oftaz4x4150 has much to be proud oftaz4x4150 has much to be proud oftaz4x4150 has much to be proud oftaz4x4150 has much to be proud oftaz4x4150 has much to be proud of
Points: 4,160, Level: 27 Points: 4,160, Level: 27 Points: 4,160, Level: 27
Level up: 20% Level up: 20% Level up: 20%
Activity: 99% Activity: 99% Activity: 99%
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by BroncoJoe19 View Post

Here are some of the threads that taz spoke of.

WIndstar rear heat/AC issues
http://www.ford-forums.com/ford-wind...html#post55494
I wish I knew how to pull and post info like that !
__________________
97 F150 4x4
98 Windstar
01 Taurus SE

"Not a cure, just a suggestion!"
taz4x4150 is offline   Reply With Quote


Old 08-17-2009, 02:55 AM   #7 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
BroncoJoe19's Avatar
 

Join Date: May 2008
Location: New Jersey
Posts: 6,288
BroncoJoe19 has a reputation beyond reputeBroncoJoe19 has a reputation beyond reputeBroncoJoe19 has a reputation beyond reputeBroncoJoe19 has a reputation beyond reputeBroncoJoe19 has a reputation beyond reputeBroncoJoe19 has a reputation beyond reputeBroncoJoe19 has a reputation beyond reputeBroncoJoe19 has a reputation beyond reputeBroncoJoe19 has a reputation beyond reputeBroncoJoe19 has a reputation beyond reputeBroncoJoe19 has a reputation beyond repute
Points: 27,407, Level: 72 Points: 27,407, Level: 72 Points: 27,407, Level: 72
Level up: 48% Level up: 48% Level up: 48%
Activity: 99% Activity: 99% Activity: 99%
Default

theard,
I don't have a diagram for you.

It sounds like you are going to have to take it apart to see what is going on, or NOT!
Since the info is a little scant, perhaps you can share the pictures that you take and write up a little tutorial so that we can share it with others who need it in the future.

Taz,
just locate the thread and then copy and paste the URL into your reply.
__________________
BroncoJoe19
2006 Alt Fuel Jeep (electric)
'98 windstar 3.8L
'99 Crown Vic 4.6L
'90 Full Size Bronco 5.0L
I'm not a professional mechanic, take my suggestions with a grain of salt, or a cup of coffee
At the bottom of each post there is a little icon
Clicking it gives feedback to the moderators, and poster regarding which posts are most helpful.
BroncoJoe19 is offline   Reply With Quote


Old 08-17-2009, 03:07 PM   #8 (permalink)
Junior Member
 

Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 9
theard has a spectacular aura abouttheard has a spectacular aura about
Points: 139, Level: 2 Points: 139, Level: 2 Points: 139, Level: 2
Level up: 78% Level up: 78% Level up: 78%
Activity: 99% Activity: 99% Activity: 99%
Default

I will be taking it apart again. When I do, I will provide as much info and pictures as I can. Thanks to all for their help so far!
theard is offline   Reply With Quote


Old 08-17-2009, 06:41 PM   #9 (permalink)
Junior Member
 

Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 9
theard has a spectacular aura abouttheard has a spectacular aura about
Points: 139, Level: 2 Points: 139, Level: 2 Points: 139, Level: 2
Level up: 78% Level up: 78% Level up: 78%
Activity: 99% Activity: 99% Activity: 99%
Default

Update:
Well, I located the problem. The linkage between the vacuum actuator and the blend door is either broken or disconnected. I can't see it well enough to know which, but after some testing I have found it to be the issue. I will save the details for my write-up. However, I can't remove the vacuum actuator. There is one visible bolt holding it in, but the bolt is completely inaccessible by any tool. The only way I can get to it, was if I were able to remove the entire hvac unit. I can't do that without disconnecting the a/c lines, and I don't have the tools to deal with that, or the knowledge to replace any lost refrigerant. right now, I'm going to leave it apart, and see if I can think of anything besides breaking the the bolt out of the plastic or something drastic like that. I would show you a picture of the bolt, but I can't get a camera near enough. I will do a write up on what I have done though.
theard is offline   Reply With Quote


Old 08-17-2009, 06:52 PM   #10 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
taz4x4150's Avatar
 

Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Indiana
Posts: 639
taz4x4150 has much to be proud oftaz4x4150 has much to be proud oftaz4x4150 has much to be proud oftaz4x4150 has much to be proud oftaz4x4150 has much to be proud oftaz4x4150 has much to be proud oftaz4x4150 has much to be proud oftaz4x4150 has much to be proud oftaz4x4150 has much to be proud of
Points: 4,160, Level: 27 Points: 4,160, Level: 27 Points: 4,160, Level: 27
Level up: 20% Level up: 20% Level up: 20%
Activity: 99% Activity: 99% Activity: 99%
Default

I have read a few posts where the owner rigs up a wire (coat hanger, choke cable...) and you open/close it manually. It may not be pretty but it would be functional, and I'll never see it from my house ! LOL !
GOOD LUCK
__________________
97 F150 4x4
98 Windstar
01 Taurus SE

"Not a cure, just a suggestion!"
taz4x4150 is offline   Reply With Quote


Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

Forum Jump

» Online Users: 129
7 members and 122 guests
bobbyh526, dariem, fallenauthority, george johnston, lomber13, lry040, rescuetech476
Most users ever online was 509, 07-28-2009 at 01:07 AM.
» Stats
Members: 61,047
Threads: 38,261
Posts: 147,863
Top Poster: mark v (7,710)
Welcome to our newest member, lomber13
» Partner Sites
Shopping for new Ford can be a stressful experience especially if you don't have the right information. Our new car research center at CarEverything.com can help relieve this stress and bring the joy back to new car buying!

The Car Blog, or TCB for those who are acronymically inclined, is alive because some of today's top Web designers needed a place to drool and bitch about their motor vehicle obsessions.

Read the auto blog at Automotive.com to get the latest news and opinions, view the newest concept cars, and join discussions with auto experts from around the world.

Read the auto blog at Motor Trend Online for the latest auto industry news, expert opinions, vehicle photos, and more.

View Ford recalls online; don't get caught off guard with a breakdown, learn about the latest official new and used car recalls at autorecalls.us

Join other Envoy Enthusiasts and chat about your GMC Envoy SLE, SLT, Denali and XUV. We are a growing community and would like to here from you.
» Advertisement
Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.1.0


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.1
Copyright ©2000 - 2009, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.2.0