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Old 01-29-2009, 05:42 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Smile '97 F150 engine miss and spark knock

I have a '97 F150 with 4.6 V8, automatic transmission, 4x4. The truck was not used for approximately 1 year prior to me purchasing it. When I first purchased the truck it had a slight spark knock during acceleration, slight miss that seamed to clear up and would die when you came to a stop after driving when it was at operating temperature, unless the AC was on. But it was drivable.

Then it would sometimes exhibit a no start condition until it was cranked for several minutes. When it did start it would run really rough,like it had a miss fire or vacuum leak, but would clear up and run okay.

Now it runs rough anytime you start it up, seams like a bad misfire. It can be driven, however you can not accelerate fast or it sounds like it has major spark knock. I have replaced the sparkplugs with autolite platinums, new plug wires, removed the throttle body and spacer and cleaned the carbon deposits from them. Also cleaned the IAC. Also during the whole ordeal there has been no check engine light.

I have read many threads that point at a large range of possibilities but all of the threads have noted a CEL was on. As I have pointed out, I have no CEL on. This could be due to the truck not being driven for very many miles. Trying to avoid the high cost of taking to the dealer, but I am at my wits end for what the cause could be. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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Old 01-29-2009, 07:12 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Pull codes anyway, you may get lucky.

Check for a vacuum leak.

Give her a good tuneup. YOu don't have a distributor cap do you?
YOu have coil packs right?

DO you have a cam position sensor, or a crank position sensor?

Check your coolent fluid level.

Did you consider cleaning your MAF?
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Thanks. I will get autozone to pull the codes and see if any show up.

Coolant level is fine and clean.

Have not considered cleaning the MAF. Appears clean. Had a MAF go bad on my '95 Tbird had similar spark knock but no rough idle or miss.

Gave a good tune up. Another thread suggested I check the two coil packs. Hope to check in the next couple of days.

I have not checked the camshaft or crankshaft position sensors. Any idea how? Resistance check?

I have checked for vacuum leaks. Vacuum gauge connected to manifold shows steady 19" reading.
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i am going through the same problem right now, let me tell you what i did, i got the P0174 and P0171 codes and a code for a bad EGR sensor, i thinks its the dfpe sensor, replaced that put on a maf sensor, and it really seemed to help it, but it still knocks during accelaration i would say around 2000 to 2500 rpms, and hesistates really bad when accelrating around the same rpms, ive concluded that my fuel pump is about to shoot the craps, cause the codes are running lean codes not running rich codes, which tells me fuel isnt getting to the cylinders fast enough, and ive had multiple conversations with different mechanics, and that seems to be the general consensus, go spend a couple 10 or 15 bucks and have some do a fuel pressure test, if there is any big difference in fuel pressure might be from pre start and idle, then the pump may be going bad , and it might not hurt to go to a muffler shop and have them test the catalytic converter, to see if the exhaust flow is good.............just some thoughts

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Default 04 F-150 5.4 MAF or Coil over Spark AGAIN OR????

I have massive problems with this Truck
First driving up slight hill begin to accelerate and the Engine seems to mis BIG TIME at first i thought it was the drive train because it shaked the whole truck.
replaced a Coil seemed to work for a few days then it started again replaced another Coil. a few days later same thing. replaced all Coils and the damn thing still does it.
It really does it at low RPM at around 45-50 coasting than begining to accelerate. I have been nursing this from OD to no OD. and have tried to learn when to punch it to avoid the drastic shake from the engine..

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No, and i am embarrassed to admit it...

I will be taking it in soon to change them. right now it is at the shop figuring out all the codes that keep popping up... My local mechanic suggested that i get a dealer to do it because of the known breaking problem with the 04 150 plugs...

I have been beyond frustrated with the dealers in my area because of the coils issue and still the problem.

as you asked about the plug so do my local mechanic...

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