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Old 08-20-2008, 04:31 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I suppose if this was a fox body area we might be getting a lot of young punks that don't know much about cars.......but Falcons? I'd like to think we're all a bunch of educated people here with some background.
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Should i type anything, or just let this badge of ignorance shine for itself?
Oh?
That was a BROAD generalization......
as in most of the "younger" generation probably wouldn't consider driving an old Falcon. I personally like fox body cars, though I would prefer a Faimont sedan to a mustang.
My point was more to the case where "all of us" don't necessarily need a physics lesson every time we post a question. I have personally owned several Falcon based vehicles, but never modified one as early a year as extensively as my current project.
Like peps said; I learn something new from this car every time I work on it.

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I suppose if this was a fox body area we might be getting a lot of young punks that don't know much about cars.......but Falcons? I'd like to think we're all a bunch of educated people here with some background.
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Sorry to say this, but I tend to be blunt when it comes to mechanical applications. I used to be employed in a trade that required a working knowledge in physics and mechanics but am now paying the price becasue someone without the knowledge decided to cut corners.

The person broke some bolts that held an assembly together and tried to hide his inability to perform his job by super gluing the heads back in place.

I came along later and thinking the assembly was intact placed it in a lathe. He didn't suffer...

No Mike, internet sites/boards like this one tend to draw people who were born with the know-how as well as those that can't master pop top cans and would die of thurst if it wasn't for a waitress. Somewhere down the stack you will find a topic in which it was stated that the rest of us weren't too smart because we hadn't noticed that Pinto spindles can be bolted onto the stock Falcon/Comet control arms.

The way the topic was worded the person was going to make kits to sell to the rest of us. For some reason I was the only one who pointed out the Pinto spindle had a shorter height and that would destroy the geometry of the front end.

I willl admit I thought I would get flamed but the other party did openly admit the wheels were at odd angles. I do hope that if anyone read his opening statement and got the idea he was correct simply because he published his (mis-)information on the internet read all the way through the topic and that changed their mind about doing the same conversion.

I know of some Ford sites that will not publish any conversion info in fear of being sued when the conversion fails and injured parties seek comp. I try to remember that and keep my mouth shut but sometimes the people are just too close to killiing someone with their lack of understanding of the facts of the real world.

One person, who will remain un-named, strongly objected to my publishing the "Lame Brain" engine swaps topic even though it was writen for and published by the FCA ages ago. The person felt that everyone had the right to "learn" though making mistakes. No, everyone should learn by exploring the information passed on by others first. The ER's and graveyards are full of people who didn't.

All I can do is point out the errors in judgement and add, "It's your car..."

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I thought the car in discussion was a Fox Body, funny how Magically now it never was.
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this is true; I can't believe someone would superglue boltheads on.......OMG!!!
I, too hate misinformation, I found this thread to be extremely helpful in somewhat of an inspiration to my own project.
I did not mean to offend any fox body owners out there, For the most part I think it's the "young" persons ford these days.
I don't like popular cars....I hate mustangs, camaros, mopar e-bodys, hondas.....for the same reason. Go to a car show and what do you see? the same crap on everyones car.
I drive a Plymouth Cricket and a ford courier, I've owned close to 400 cars and even was on a design team for a third world nation gp vehicle.
I wasn't realy bothered by your comment to me, not much gets me riled.
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ok, got the brackets for the new export brace roughed out today, I still have to weld ears on them for the turn buckle and fab the cowl seam end, but you get the idea of what im up to with the pics.









I made them out of 11ga plate. used a metal cutting band saw for almost all the cut out, drill the mounting holes. Ill paint them black too.
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Actually, I thought this thread was for Peps' documentation of the Restification of his car so others could see how it was done and to maybe inspire other Falcon owners to try it themselves.
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It inspired me to actually GET one.
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Perusing Peps' story here-----------talk about bringing back memories.

I did a drum to disc conversion 10 years ago on a 1961 Falcon using '1965 Falcon/Comet V8' parts (yes, I know about the 1965 only centerlink) or their Mustang, etc. equivalents along with Granada/Maverick spindles.
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worked more on the export brace today. here is what i got done.

made the cowl seam brace (11ga steel) that will tie to the shock towers via a turnbuckle rod (not done yet) using spherical bearing rod ends and 3/8" grade 8 bolts.





now mounted to the car.

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