Falcon - Granada conversion

[mark v]

Awesome Job!

[93stang434]

do you know how similar 64 and 65s are?i have a 65 that has a stroked 302 (331) and an aod transmission and need to know if there is a transmission crossmember available or if one needs to be fabricated the four speed crossmembr won't work. what where you doing for a crossmember?

[Peps]

Originally Posted by 93stang434

do you know how similar 64 and 65s are?i have a 65 that has a stroked 302 (331) and an aod transmission and need to know if there is a transmission crossmember available or if one needs to be fabricated the four speed crossmembr won't work. what where you doing for a crossmember?

I am going to use the crossmember that i took out of the Granada.
Ill post a pic of the two on sat night.

[Peps]

Originally Posted by Peps

I am going to use the crossmember that i took out of the Granada.
Ill post a pic of the two on sat night.

here is the stock straight 6, 3 speed manual trans mount with the ebrake bracket still attached.

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and this is what came out of the granada C4 mount.

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[Peps]

got some more work done today.
here is the lower A arm. I was going to just clean it up and replace the ball joint on the orriginal, but the the price for the complete arm was so cheap at the mustang parts place, i just got two new ones.

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this is the dry assemble, of the upper A arm and the granada spendle and the lower A arm. this is the passenger side.

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I picked up the mustang lowered (praise the lowered) springs and you can see how they compare to the stockers.

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and this is how they sit on the upper A arm. you can also see the new ball joint is bolted in from the bottom of the A arm

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add new rubbers on top of the springs.

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now its time to clean the wheel well. this works pretty fast. wire wheel on a die grinder.

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and time to dry fit the new parts. note the brake line that will have to be bent 90 deg to work with the new hose for the disk brakes

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and add caliper bracet and the dust cover.

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thats all til next week. still got lots of clean up and final fit up to do.
but this should help the new guys know what the conversion looks like. BTW, its my first time too.

[jonmark1985]

It's looking great, makes me want to tear apart the front ends on my cars and sandblast and clean everything.

[Peps]

did some work today on the power steering conversion. currently it has the manual steering, and I have all the stuff from the 1977 Granada, so I thought i would see what it would take to make it work. It is not a straight bolt in, although pretty close. keep in mind, I am only dry fitting the parts. I will have to take it all back out IF I can make it work. that is still unknown. here is some pics.

after removing the stock steering gear box, I found i had to grind off the corner of the Granada box to allow it to fit, One of the three mounting holes on the frame will have to be elongated about 1/8 to line up.

the Granda box is on the left.



this is the edge i had to grind to make some clearance.



now bolted in, you can see how close it is.



then i installed the ram cyl, center link, idler arm (which bolts right in) the left inner outer tie rods. I found that the right side tie rod is off set about 2" inboard as you can see by my center line mark on the center link.
it is too long. so if you look real close just below the frame(left side of picture), you can see where i cut out 2" and re-welded it just to see if it would work. and now it all lines up really close. at least close enough to continue. I am using ALL Granada power steering parts and linkages.



in this pic you can see the orriginal linkage on the floor. I kept it there to use as a referance as I installed the Granada linkage.




just a note about welding the tie rod. yes, I am a welder and have been welding for over 20 years. I did this as a test, not as a permanate fix. if it all looks like it will work, I will buy new inner and outer tie rods and machine one shorter, not weld it. true, it could be welded and be safe by adding an outside collar after it is all welded and ground, and it would be plenty strong enough, but why risk it?

[mark v]

I always look forward to your posts and photos!

[Peps]

I found a couple more pics that i thought would be helpfull.
the first one show how much I removed from the passenger outer tie rod. on the Granada both sides are the same length, but to use on the falcon, one has to be shorter, the Granada must have been 2" or so wider than the Falcon.



this pic show the stock Falcon manual steering set up for the 6 cyl car. it is what i removed.

[Peps]

on the manual steering cars, just below the steering box, on the bottom side of the frame of the car, there are 2 holes provided for the ram cyl mount. it looks like the holes are plugged with threaded inserts to protect the threads maybe.
there is a cyl mounting harware kit that looks like it has the threaded inserts that will accept a bolt. I have the kit on order and will show it when it get here. until then, this is what you see when you look under the car.



you can see where the ram cyl mounts up.



and a close up of the plug.