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I've heard about all the guys who have done the granada swap,but has any one here put an econoline straight axle in for a gasser setup?Just wondering about the details,handling,stability,hookup etc. as far as a street machine.Also what year equipment will work in a '63 falcon.
Ok,looks nice,but what kind of handling do you get with this setup?Is it safe for street driving?I know vehicles used to be made with a factory straight axle,butdoes it pitch and roll real bad in the corners?
It will handle ok on the street.
Around corners it will behave very bad.
It will want to push in turns, and in my opinion I would not do it.
But if you are after that 60's Gasser look - go for it.
There is good reason for the over steer that develops with the front axle as shown in the photo. But no one on this board wants to read the "engineering" discription.
Try this link for a gasser in Louisville. Falcon Club Of America Bluegrass Chapter It has a Econoline front axle and I am sending him a disc brake setup to install.
When you view the Falcon from the side you will note that the eyes of the rear spring are at different heights above the ground. The front eye is lower.
#1. Here's where the geometry comes in:
The rear axle of the Falcon DOES NOT move up and down in a true vertical direction (90 degrees to the gound) by design.
As the axle moves upward in relationship to the body it (the axle) also moves slightly forward. That shortens the distance between the center of the wheels on one side of the car (in this example only one rear wheel is moving upward). This causes the rear axle to steer the rear of the car in the opposite direction the turned front wheels are taking the front end of the car. The result is oversteer.
Or as the classic remark states, "A car trying to follow a curve will go off the road front end first". Ford U.S. designed the oversteer into the Falcon on purpose as they figured the typical U.S. driver (being used to the heavy barges from the 40's and 50's) would prefer to turn the front wheels more in attempt to follow the curve.
If both spring eyes were the same distance above the ground you would develop "netural steer". Note the typical early Mustang race car has the rear eye of the spring at almost an even height with the front eye.
If you are old enough to remember seeing Falcons with weak rear springs and 18" long shackles but the rear spring eye was still lower then the front eye, you saw a car that "oversteers". Loose control in a curve and the car would tend to go off the road backwards.
Now, in the case of the Falcon shown in the photo note the position of the eyes of the front spring and apply the geometry stated above.
#2. Lack of front sway bar as on the stock Falcon. The front sway bars effects the loading of the rear wheels, a rear sway bar effects the loading of the front wheels. The idea is to load both tires on one end of the car evenly. Engine torque and the fact that as a car rounds a curve the side of the car on the outside of athe curve drops causes the axles to moveup and down/rear axle steer.
Under acceleration the pictured Falcon's engine torque would lift the left front of the car causing the right rear to drop. When the geometry mentioned above is applied the rear of the car would want to steer to the right. That 63 sedan I talk about in the "Dumb Falcon engine swaps" topic did this big time. (I should talk. On my 85 Mustang, a front sway bar mount is missing and the rear axle locator is disconnected on the right side. Been there, doing that.)
Once the is torque reduced (shifting gears, backing off throttle) torque the rear axle would try to steer the rear of the car in the opposite direction. reapply torque and the rear takes off in the the other direction. May be fun on a drag strip but a problem when driven on the highway where there are no safety barriers and vehicles are coming at you!
You CAN engineer a straight front axle/Falcon rear suspension to handle, but since these were drag cars why bother? There was a 63 Sprint raced in this area that had the body sitting level and spring eyes repositioned to eliminate the unwanted steering effects. It could be driven on the road with no more problem then one would encounter driving an early Econoline.
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I just bought the Speedway set-up. It was only $624 shipped to me. Axle, springs, spindles, steering and disc brakes. You can chose the width you want. If you add this up individualy on their web site it comes to over $1100. Buy the whole kit and save $$$. I have not put it in yet as I am still looking for other parts so I can really hit it when I am ready. So far I bought a 9" rear end narrowed to stock width, new leaf springs, 15x8 Cragar SS wheels and some Hurst 10" Cheater Slicks. I have a 460/C6 to use. This is all going on my 60' Falcon.
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