Pirelli Tires

[e-nelson]

Anyone haveing problems with the Pirelli tires? I had to get new ones at 16,000 miles and again at 35,000 miles. Both times the dealer says my alignment was off in the front and caused excessive wearing to the point where the belts showed through. Thre were no signs that the alignment was off except for the tire wear. Even the rear tires are shot where there is no way the alignment can be a problem.

Anyone know of a better lasting tire for the 2006 Limited?

[glenncof]

I have a 2005 AWD with 33K on P6's. I may get them to 38K but doubt it.

I rotated the tires once at 27K. The fronts were wearing on the inside, the rears on the outside. The wear patterns cancel and I have been running air pressure 10% higher to get more wear in center.

Factory Spec is 10 degree TOE OUT for front. The rear spec is 10 degrees TOE IN.

There is a TSB on front tire wear on inside edge. The TSB says to crank the TOE to 10 degrees IN if this inner edge wear. I think it was for 15K miles warranty coverage only.

Discussion - I have not seen Front toe OUT before. Excessive toe out results in inner edge wear. So I don't know if my toe out was excessive or it should be set to zero or toe in of 10 per TSB. I'll need to measure it and decide what to do. Toe out increase over-steer while toe in increases under-steer but the steering is great, luv it.

I'm not sure what to do about rear toe-in either until I can measure it.

Then again I may do nothing since cost of alignment (and possible screw-up) must be weight against tread wear cost on new tires. I'm considering developing a procedure using laser levels but that's me and I have experience making tweeks to alignment. Also working with an independent shop technician may be the best if not costly.

Right now I'm looking at replacements; General Grabber UHP upsized to 255/55-18 from Americas Tire for under $600 after discounts. These are a summer tire but Mud+Snow rated, Z rated (168mph), load rated to 109 (2271 lbs each). I have AWD and these are good in rain and light snow per Tire Rack customers.

[R-WEST]

Mine wore the OEM Conti's enough in 20K that I'm saving them for re-install when the lease is up. Running Toyo "Avid" TRZ's on there now, AND rotating them every oil change. The TRZ's were as highly rated as I could find. So far (about 8K on 'em) so good.

Dunno if that premature tire wear is an AWD deal or what. My niece's Montana AWD mini-van ate its OEM Conti's in 12K (!!!!) miles and the dealer blamed it on not rotating the tires , so, I figure I'll rotate the heck out of 'em.

[Homey237]

R-West, don't you mean "Yokohama" Avid TRZ's ? You indicated Toyo.

[elias2117]

Originally Posted by Homey237

R-West, don't you mean "Yokohama" Avid TRZ's ? You indicated Toyo.

I fail to understand why people continue to buy cheap tires and then complain how they don't last or perform in rain and snow.Just took off those POS p6's and put on the Goodyear comfort tread and gained about 2 MPG so far, same driving conditions and habits.I Paid $633 out the door mounted and balanced which is close to any other cheap brands price. Like the freestyle I took off the worthless OEM tires on my VW and put Goodyears triple tread which have lasted 50,000 so far I figure I'll get maybe 15,000 more or so. As far as Conti's they are too soft to last much past 15,000 which is pretty sad, not to mention they are one of the most expensive tires on the market.

I think glennco is on to something the alignment is the most important part of the puzzle without that all is lost.

[R-WEST]

R-West, don't you mean "Yokohama" Avid TRZ's ? You indicated Toyo.

Oops!! Yep, Yokohama.