What fuel additive to use for a stock 429 4-V? What's a good brand/solution?

[GalaxieJeff]

Originally Posted by TheBobsHere

How does this site plan to bring in new members if this is the way they're treated?
I'm not sitting here talking about how my 4.6 2v makes 500HP NA. An impossibility. Dude, you need to get over whatever trust issues you have. Not everyone lies.

Dude, get over yourself. I stated you were wrong about the cause of the problems, didn't say the sludged motors didn't occur, then again presented facts showing your...uh..."analogy" was incorrect.
Sorry, rather then correcting errors and hurting some ones feelings we should just let all the disinformation slide and spread, who needs facts right?!?!?!

[TheBobsHere]

Who said I ran away? I simply went to bed, I don't need to "run" from anyone. It's not like I'm the one making assumptions about others here am I. I'm also not sitting here claiming that you wiki'd your info either (even tho I could). No, I'm giving you the same respect and benefit of the doubt I expect from others. As far as my untrustworthy story, I'm going from my experience at the time along with the logs that started before I was born and were kept by an alcoholic thief. Sorry if I didn't spend my youth studying outdated chemistry, I was actually busy being a normal eighteen year old and searching for the Holy Grail of pussy.
As far as me being defensive, who doesn't get defensive when called a liar?
By the way, if you really know all that, you'd also know it only takes a bad PCV to cause carbon buildup (did you bother asking any questions, no).
Instead of looking for lies in every story you hear, maybe you should ask for more info before rushing to judgment. It's not a good personal trait and I'm so glad I'm not you. That crap makes for one unhappy person, I've seen it first hand. Oh, wait that's another anecdotal story lol.

[TheBobsHere]

If you want to set the facts straight, then ask questions and get answers, then explain why they're wrong. Don't just call people out without knowing ALL the info. You come across as an asshole when you do that.

[Mr. 429]

Hey Guys,

I didn't mean to start a battle here. I've received great info from the both of you and felt like I was at a roundtable discussion with some mechanics with different experiences until it got ugly.

I always value forums like this one, because if you are respectful and genuinely need help with an issue, or need help to confirm info, there are guys that understand your problem and really can help. They have the experience that you don't have. This thread was the perfect example up until a few post ago. Would I have known without this thread that there were true differences in oils, from different times, or even current synthetics and filters? No. Or that sludge can cause major problems, even if the age of oil used may not be the actual problem, if not addressed? Not really. Does it hurt much of anything for me to flush my engine as a precaution? No. Do I know how to clean it now, how to flush my gas tank/lines, how to clean the dropped pan, what are good oils/filters to use, and whether or not I need any additives? Hell yes.

Could I have easily received this much information this quickly without your guys' help? I highly doubt it. Now I have my weekend auto work confirmed, without hardly any doubts as to exactly what I need to do, and what I should use to do it.

So a big thanks to all. I have compiled some great info. Not to belabor the original question(s), but I have just one more question, and it may be dumb since I remember how easy it is to fix when you run out of gas in a carb'd car : Do I need to prime the lines/pump/carb after I drain the gas and flush the lines? What's the best procedure to avoid any strain on anything (fuel pump, carb, engine or other parts) when getting it started again?

Much thanks.

[TheBobsHere]

Mr. 429, You didn't start anything but the thread. I'm glad we were able to help you and sorry if you felt in any way responsible for for the disagreement between myself and GalaxieJeff. I hope your ride is as awesome as it sounds and that it gives you a smile from ear to ear every time you get in it. I'd love to see some pics.



"Do I need to prime the lines/pump/carb after I drain the gas and flush the lines? What's the best procedure to avoid any strain on anything (fuel pump, carb, engine or other parts) when getting it started again?"

As long as there are no air leaks in the system and the fuel pickup is in fuel it should take less than a minute or so of cranking for the system to prime and the car to start (Just like when you run out of gas). Pouring a small amount of gas down the carb throat will help as does starting fluid but it's not completely necessary and you need help as someone needs to crank while someone else adds the gas or starter fluid. I'm sure others have their own opinions and ways of doing this like filling the float bowel from the fuel inlet but I find it too messy, time consuming and unnecessary (unless you really need the car to start immediately for some reason).

[freehling]

uncalled for 2 cents worth....back in the 70s you could all ways tell a quaker state user just by taking off the valve covers....black slime. most often straight 30w. a couple changes with valvoline all climate 10w30 would clean it up and the leaks would eventualy stop

[jonmark1985]

I won't use anything but havoline/valvoline/texaco or shell rotella in any of my vehicles.

I'm leary of those pretty orange filters too, I perfer to stick to motorcraft or wix filters.

[GalaxieJeff]

See, there you go again, "running away". BTW I meant from the topic, not literally, sorry I wasn't more simplistic in my replies, maybe if I threw around some swear words, would that help? See, when your "stories" are explained away with facts you "run and hide" with insults and more stories.
Then you trip yourself up, first, you "know it all" with your only proof anecdotal stories, then you admit to being an 18 year old distracted and more intent on chasing skirt (see, you don't have to use dirty language) then your job.

You come across as an asshole when you do that.

<this should be dumbed down enough for you to comprehend......>
Better an asshole that knows what he's talking about then a dumbass that doesn't.

[TheBobsHere]

The topic was fuel additives not oil. So you see, we're both off topic. The difference is I actually read the part where the OP said thank you, problem solved. By trying to rope me into playing this game of who knows more about X, you are actually chasing people away from seeking help from this site. I'm not going to respond to you anymore as I've already said you know more about oil than me (assuming you didn't get your knowledge form Google). What you don't know, is when to stop. You are just too petty for my time. Good bye.

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[GalaxieJeff]

Two posts just to say, "you're right, I have no FACTS to refute a single word you said."
Just stomp your feet (just like a liberal politician) and duck out of the room name calling.
Thank you for proving my points.