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06-13-2008, 06:36 AM
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| Installing HHO (Hydrogen Generator) I have built two HHO generators for other cars I have and thought it might work equally well for my 99 Ranger 4x4. So I have ordered the internals and am going to build one in the next few weeks to install and test. If anyone has tried one and has any mounting insite please let me in on it. For now the two slots next to the grill plentum are the best I can see. |
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06-16-2008, 03:44 PM
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06-17-2008, 04:02 PM
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| HHO is a scam Sorry guys, no offense intended, but no car or truck can produce enough HHO to make a significant difference in fuel consumption (which is why no car manufacturer is doing it). The websites selling kits to do this are a scam. Scientific proof debunking the "run your car on water" scams (1) Scientific proof debunking the "run your car on water" scams (2)
And, from the James Randi Foundation: We’re told, in the FOX video, that “people still have trouble believing him” when Klein tells them that his fuel is water. Small wonder. That water has to first be broken down into hydrogen and oxygen through a method known as electrolysis. That process was discovered back in the 1800s, and it uses more energy than can be gained from it by burning the two components – that’s called the Conservation of Energy law, and it hasn’t yet been repealed. Cars that run “on water” have been re-invented every few years. Recently there was Steven Horvath in Australia, who sold a lot of stock to losers, Henry Garrett in Texas – in 1935 – and Stanley Meyer, who was convicted of fraud in 1996. Andrija Puharich – who also “discovered” Uri Geller! – Archie Blue, Bob Boyce, Carl Cella, Charles H. Garrett, Daniel Dingel, Hector Pierre Vaes, Nakamatsu Yoshiro, Sam Leslie Leach, Stanley Meyer, and scores of others, all came up with this same insane idea, and all fell on their collective nose.
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08-13-2008, 01:09 PM
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| Installing HHO (Hydrogen Generator) you are incorrectamundo my friend. hho is for real. how do i know?? because i actually have the system installed in my car. gives me about a 25% increase in mpg on my accord.
I also installed one on my buddies aspire that already gets 40mpg and hes now getting about 90-100mpg no joke.
of course fox news is gonna tell you hho is a scam. they are funded by the republican\oil complex of america. they dont want you to be able to drive cheaply. they want you to rape you in the ass with this oil prices.
hho is for real. look it up. its already out, people all over los angeles have this installed in their cars and the number is growing each day. look it up!! |
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08-13-2008, 03:06 PM
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| Now that I have it installed I find that until I used the bias on the MAF sensor the computer was throwing in extra fuel. Now that that is done I am realizing 12 to 18 % gain in MPG.
2 interesting things on the ford are. A my exhaust is spitting water, lots of water, the others installed did not do this to this extent, secondly, the exhaust is clean, I mean to say the exhaust does not throw black like it did before install.
For something that does not work, it has some interesting effects on my wallet.... So best miles per so far is almost 26. (55 mph on a day that was about 76 degrees, the hotter the worse it is) My RV (non cat) went from 11 to 16, that was a smaller system. Going to retrofit it after these results.
You can build one for under $30 if you know what to do and get. |
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08-13-2008, 06:43 PM
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| Can you send me some info. Do you have a parts list for the one you put on your Ranger. an d what and where do I get that bias for the MAF sensor? How long has it been on the truck? Does it work better on carb or fuel injection. I need to get help from the gas pump. |
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08-13-2008, 07:55 PM
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| Parts list for HHO Quote:
Originally Posted by hotrodscoot Do you have a parts list for the one you put on your Ranger. an d what and where do I get that bias for the MAF sensor? How long has it been on the truck? Does it work better on carb or fuel injection. I need to get help from the gas pump. | As soon as I get back home I will make you a list. I am on travel until Saturday.
The bias I bought on Ebay for $15 that is probably cheaper than one you could make one for counting the driving etc. Make certain you have solid core copper wire in the generator. There is a HHO Youtube video that outlines it pretty well. I will see if I can find that also and post the link.
As far as working on injected or carburettor engines, all depends on the hardware, My RV is a carb with 2 hho converters. Works but when the 4 bbl kicks there is little benefit, cruise is seems to work well. Injected engines take more trouble but it seems to work the full range. Mine has been operational for a few weeks. I drive 11 miles each way 6 of that is highway. I see an improvement on average so far of about 21.4, best is 26 measured highway and worst is 15 pulling a trailer. I have not tried the 4x4 millage yet, it probably would not pan out cause I only use it while going slow.. |
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08-13-2008, 08:08 PM
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Originally Posted by NeitherFanboy Sorry guys, no offense intended, but no car or truck can produce enough HHO to make a significant difference in fuel consumption (which is why no car manufacturer is doing it). The websites selling kits to do this are a scam. Scientific proof debunking the "run your car on water" scams (1) Scientific proof debunking the "run your car on water" scams (2)
And, from the James Randi Foundation: We’re told, in the FOX video, that “people still have trouble believing him” when Klein tells them that his fuel is water. Small wonder. That water has to first be broken down into hydrogen and oxygen through a method known as electrolysis. That process was discovered back in the 1800s, and it uses more energy than can be gained from it by burning the two components – that’s called the Conservation of Energy law, and it hasn’t yet been repealed. Cars that run “on water” have been re-invented every few years. Recently there was Steven Horvath in Australia, who sold a lot of stock to losers, Henry Garrett in Texas – in 1935 – and Stanley Meyer, who was convicted of fraud in 1996. Andrija Puharich – who also “discovered” Uri Geller! – Archie Blue, Bob Boyce, Carl Cella, Charles H. Garrett, Daniel Dingel, Hector Pierre Vaes, Nakamatsu Yoshiro, Sam Leslie Leach, Stanley Meyer, and scores of others, all came up with this same insane idea, and all fell on their collective nose. | I had a hard time with the idea myself. However a refined process of the HHO converter is used by Navy Subs to make O2, They dump the Hydrogen... In this case we are using both, the burn is fast, not hot, lots of power from a little bit. Second there is a patent on the process, and another one that refines the process in the works. Now if we could find a way to vaporize fuel to its elemental gases we could be getting nearly 100 MPG out of fuel all by its self.... there is a team working that one also. Only a matter of time before we see something on the market.
The bottom line, is if you do it correctly you will see benefit. If you do nothing, you get nothing. I love an adventure, so I just had to try. |
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08-14-2008, 10:29 AM
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| My dads 94 f-150 went from 10 mpg to 18 with HHO. My 94 ranger went from 14 to 13. Who knows.... |
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08-14-2008, 10:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Hunterfrommo My dads 94 f-150 went from 10 mpg to 18 with HHO. My 94 ranger went from 14 to 13. Who knows.... | Did you slave in a bias on the feed back to the computer ,from the MAF/P on the Ranger, if not the O2 sensor is telling the system you have a lean mixture and dumping in more fuel. Just a thought... |
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